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Stacy Lone
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.06.12 11:25:25 -
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I aprreciate the effort, but some of the information in that guide is either misleading or wrong.
First of all, undoking. You have a slight window of invulnerability when undocking. If you have a proper insta-undock, you *can not* be caught on undock no matter what ship you are flying. While this part of your guide is quite good, this is worth mentioning.
Secondly, docking. This par of your guide is only half-true. Yes, it is harder to catch you when you warp in from unkown locations, but that is not the point.
The point is, NEVER warp to 0 at a station. No matter what direction you come from. The warp-in spots on some stations are severely screwed up, leading you to come out several km from the docking spots in some cases.
Instead, create a docking BM that will always land you at the station so that you can dock instantly. Using such a BM makes it irrelevant from which direction you are coming (except for 0.0 with bubbles). Before any attacker can lock you you are already in the docking procedure and invulnerable. |
Stacy Lone
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
85
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Posted - 2015.06.12 12:05:53 -
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AeonOfTime wrote:
I remember having to approach a station to dock after warping to 0, but I assumed it was because of the warp not being that precise. For instance, it happened more often with larger ships than small ones, and it did not happen every time. Then again it hs been some time since I had a station like that, so I'll take your word for it.
Yes, that is part of the problem. A proper docking BM however is closer to the station then the spot that is used for the warp to zero, and will allow you to instanly dock in any ship (even freighters). This technique is also used to create cyno spots so that you can cyno to it and dock up.
getting such a BM right can be a pain in the ass, though, and is definitely more difficult then creating insta-undocks. |
Stacy Lone
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.06.12 12:15:05 -
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I mostly warp to zero, then approach the station, then wait a few seconds after the distance goes to 0, then create the BM. Then I undock and verify that it works as expected by warping to it several times. |
Stacy Lone
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
86
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Posted - 2015.06.13 15:42:59 -
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Le Moineau wrote:One thing I do is vary the distances I make my insta undock BMs.
For example most of my undock Bms are at 300 km or better. I have seen scan ships and gank ships out at 150 km waiting for ships to insta undock.
Best is having a BM that is off grid with the station. For Jita 4-4, this means 1000km or more (Jita 4-4 grid is sometimes HUGE). In Amarr, you often get away with ~300-450km.
For "normal" activities (not hauling expensive stuff or blingy ships) 300km is fine, tho. |
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